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Barley, the firstfruit

During the time the bible was written there were basically three harvests. The spring wheat and barley harvest. The summer grape harvest and the fall olive harvest. Barley is a staple of the Hebrew. It is planted in the fall along with wheat. It is ready before the wheat and was the grain used to make the Passover bread. In the bible it is used as a symbol of the firstfruits.

Leviticus 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD’S passover.

Remember Christ became our Passover when he became the Lamb slain.

Leviticus 23:6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.

Seven is spiritual completeness.

Leviticus 23:7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein. 8: But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days: in the seventh day is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein. 9: And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 10: Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:

Barley is the only thing ready this time of the year. Wheat is ready later for the Feast of Weeks or Passover. Thus barley is the firstfruit.

Leviticus 23:11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it. 12: And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the LORD.

God didn’t want our burnt offerings he wanted our love. Most everyone understands that the lamb is a symbol for Christ, but what is this sheaf they are waving around? That is the barley, the firstfruits. So why are they waving it around? God certainly didn’t need them to do that, but he told them to do that so why? I will answer by asking you who were the disciples? Were they not the firstfruits? Was not Peter the one that lead the church on Pentecost day and the church multiplied exponentially?

OK let’s back up and I can show you something.

Judges 7:7 And the LORD said unto Gideon, By the three hundred men that lapped will I save you, and deliver the Midianites into thine hand: and let all the other people go every man unto his place.

God has just eliminated all the people that were fearful and all the people who didn’t draw the water up to their mouth to drink and we are left with these 300

Judges 7:8 So the people took victuals in their hand, and their trumpets: and he sent all the rest of Israel every man unto his tent, and retained those three hundred men: and the host of Midian was beneath him in the valley.

Did you notice this is taking place in a valley? Just to give you a heads up, this whole battle is an ensample of the battle of Armageddon so perk up.

Judges 7:9 And it came to pass the same night, that the LORD said unto him, Arise, get thee down unto the host; for I have delivered it into thine hand. 10: But if thou fear to go down, go thou with Phurah thy servant down to the host: 11: And thou shalt hear what they say; and afterward shall thine hands be strengthened to go down unto the host. Then went he down with Phurah his servant unto the outside of the armed men that were in the host.

It’s clear that God doesn’t count fear to be a sin. It’s natural to feel fear it’s when you fail to act because of your fear that you get into trouble.

Judges 7:12 And the Midianites and the Amalekites and all the children of the east lay along in the valley like grasshoppers for multitude; and their camels were without number, as the sand by the sea side for multitude.

Does this gathering sound familiar to you?

Judges 7:13 And when Gideon was come, behold, there was a man that told a dream unto his fellow, and said, Behold, I dreamed a dream, and, lo, a cake of barley bread tumbled into the host of Midian, and came unto a tent, and smote it that it fell, and overturned it, that the tent lay along. 14: And his fellow answered and said, This is nothing else save the sword of Gideon the son of Joash, a man of Israel: for into his hand hath God delivered Midian, and all the host.

And this is why we came here. God wanted Gideon to hear this dream because he wanted it known what barley meant to him and it certainly isn’t all of Israel

Judges 7:15 And it was so, when Gideon heard the telling of the dream, and the interpretation thereof, that he worshipped, and returned into the host of Israel, and said, Arise; for the LORD hath delivered into your hand the host of Midian.

Don’t read over the fact that Gideon stopped to worship God.

Judges 7:16 And he divided the three hundred men into three companies, and he put a trumpet in every man’s hand, with empty pitchers, and lamps within the pitchers.

Normally you hold your lamp up and let the light shine, but these are covered up.

Judges 7:17 And he said unto them, Look on me, and do likewise: and, behold, when I come to the outside of the camp, it shall be that, as I do, so shall ye do. 18: When I blow with a trumpet, I and all that are with me, then blow ye the trumpets also on every side of all the camp, and say, The sword of the LORD, and of Gideon. 19: So Gideon, and the hundred men that were with him, came unto the outside of the camp in the beginning of the middle watch; and they had but newly set the watch: and they blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers that were in their hands. 20: And the three companies blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers, and held the lamps in their left hands, and the trumpets in their right hands to blow withal: and they cried, The sword of the LORD, and of Gideon.

This sudden surprise of trumpets and light no doubt caused panic. At the battle of Armageddon, Satan will think he has won. The two witnesses will be dead. ****enemy in the street come on guys where is that scripture when you have to keep silent when the enemy passes by??***

Judges 7:21 And they stood every man in his place round about the camp: and all the host ran, and cried, and fled.

When Christ returns they will be praying for the rocks to fall on them.

Judges 7:22 And the three hundred blew the trumpets, and the LORD set every man’s sword against his fellow, even throughout all the host: and the host fled to Bethshittah in Zererath, and to the border of Abelmeholah, unto Tabbath. 23: And the men of Israel gathered themselves together out of Naphtali, and out of Asher, and out of all Manasseh, and pursued after the Midianites. 24 : And Gideon sent messengers throughout all mount Ephraim, saying, Come down against the Midianites, and take before them the waters unto Bethbarah and Jordan. Then all the men of Ephraim gathered themselves together, and took the waters unto Bethbarah and Jordan.

Do you see how all of Israel followed? It starts with the firstfruits. I know your saying to yourself, “but that’s old testament.” OK then I know your asking yourself if there is any of this firstfruit and barley stuff in the new testament. Do you remember when Christ fed the multitude with loaves and fish?

John 6:9 There is a lad here, which hath five barley loaves, and two small fishes: but what are they among so many?

Oh hey there is barley here and if we were to look earlier in this chapter it is Passover time. Remember five is the number of grace.

John 6:10 And Jesus said, Make the men sit down. Now there was much grass in the place. So the men sat down, in number about five thousand. 11: And Jesus took the loaves; and when he had given thanks, he distributed to the disciples, and the disciples to them that were set down; and likewise of the fishes as much as they would.

Here is the key. Christ didn’t hand out the food. He gave it to the disciples, who are the firstfruits, and they gave it to the people. They are the ones that wave the barley sheaf about. Don’t get me wrong. This bread is also the body of Christ, but what does that mean? Christ is the light inside us and it is the firstfruits who already have that light and it is they who God expects to pass it out to everyone else.

Romans 12:5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.

Once you partake of that body you become part of that body.

John 6:12 When they were filled, he said unto his disciples, Gather up the fragments that remain, that nothing be lost. 13: Therefore they gathered them together, and filled twelve baskets with the fragments of the five barley loaves, which remained over and above unto them that had eaten.

So we started with five, or grace, and after it was distributed we have twelve baskets. Does twelve ring a bell? It should remind you of the twelve tribes. God always has his firstfruits, but what does that mean for the rest of us? Let’s close with the beginning of the Lord of the Field parable:

Matthew 20:1-9 For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard. 2: And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard. 3: And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace, 4: And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way. 5: Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise. 6: And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle? 7: They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive. 8: So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first. 9: And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny.

Do you see how it doesn’t matter when you get into the field and start working the pay is the same. We all receive eternal life.

Is Satan on the earth now?

Going to take a break from John his week to answer a question that has come up a few times and I have seen it answered a couple of different way. Does Satan walk the earth today?

We know that Satan has been on the earth. He was with Adam and Eve in the garden. In Job God asks him where he’s been.  Job 1:7  And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.  Later on, the Gospels tells us how, when Christ was in the wilderness fasting for forty days, that Satan came to tempt him.

So he’s been here before and some argue that nothing has changed and that he is only waiting to reveal himself at the start of the tribulation using this scripture as their proof:

2 Thessalonians 2:3:  Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4: Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Others say that Satan was banished from the earth when Christ ordered him to get behind him which puts him behind the throne of God. They use this scripture as their reference:

Luke 4:5  And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6: And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. 7:  If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine. (4:8)  And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

So naturally Satan is tempting Christ and Christ isn’t falling for his crap, but does this stop Satan? Is he suddenly banished? Let’s read on to find out.

Luke 4:9  And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence: 10 For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee: 11: And in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. 12:  And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. 13:  And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season.

Seems to me that the temptations continued and the devil left when he ended the temptation.

Well you can say that Christ was still on earth and wasn’t sitting next to God on the throne yet. OK, I don’t have a problem with that. Christ does have power over him, but it says he departs for only a season thus he isn’t locked up anywhere. Next we find he isn’t in physical form. He has entered Peter.

Mar 8:31  And he (being Christ) began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again 32: And he spake that saying openly. And Peter took him, and began to rebuke him. (8:33) But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men.

So does this mean that Satan isn’t allowed here in physical form? That now he can only enter the hearts and minds of those who have carelessly let him in? Well the bible doesn’t tell us of another time of him being on earth until the tribulation, but is that all there is to it? No. Christ has foretold us all things and this isn’t any different.

John 12:28  Father, glorify thy name. (Christ speaking) Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again. 29:  The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him. 30:  Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes. 31:  Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

Who is the prince of this world? Satan of course.  Did you ever wonder why this flesh age is so crappy? This isn’t God’s kingdom friends. This is Satan’s little playground and for those of you who didn’t know, the reason God allows it to run on the way that it does is so that we can all learn at the deepest part of our souls that if you don’t do it God’s way it leads to nothing but crap.

The word now in English makes you think at that very moment, but read on.

John 12:32  And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. 33:  This he said, signifying what death he should die.

He meant Now, as in the very moment He died and defeated death, Satan was judged and cast from the earth.

Great so does that mean we are done with him? Unfortunately no, Satan wants to be God. Go back to 2 Thessalonians 2 if you don’t believe me or check out Isaiah 14 and move on down to verse 12. So what does that tell us? It tells us that everything God does, Satan will imitate. Christians understand that God comes in three forms, the Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit.  Man, who was created in the image of God, too has three forms. Don’t believe me? Do we not have a mind, body and soul? Of course we do, all of God’s children do, and Satan isn’t any different.

We know Christ is coming back. Well guess what? So is Satan.

So where does that leave us right now? Let’s see what Christ said after the crucifixion:

John 16:5:  But now I go my way to him that sent me; and none of you asketh me, Whither goest thou?  6:  But because I have said these things unto you, sorrow hath filled your heart.  7:  Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.  8:  And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:  9:  Of sin, because they believe not on me;  10:  Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11:  Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

We don’t see Christ walking the earth just as we don’t see Satan. We have The Comforter a.k.a. The Holy Spirit, but we also have Satan’s spirit working in this world and he is the prince of it and how do we know this?

Ephesians 2:2  Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

In conclusion, Satan has three parts, mind, body and soul. Satan has been on the world in physical form, but since Christ conquered death on the cross, only Satan’s spirit is able to roam among us until, as we see in Revelation 12, Michael and his angels kick him out of heaven and out onto the earth.

How can we be certain that Lucifer and satan are the same person?

Asked and answered.  I have been asking questions in groups for sometime now and I think that I would like to post some of the great answers I get.

How can we be certain that Lucifer and satan are the same person?

Lucifer is only mention in Isaiah 14

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
Isa 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

Lucifer is never referred to directly as Satan.  We fill in the blanks of Satan with the scripture of Lucifer. Is this justified?

Best Answer posted by Jason Hacker

‎(Revelation 9:11) And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon (destroying angel), but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

Ἀβαδδών
Abaddōn
ab-ad-dohn’
Of Hebrew origin [H11]; a destroying angel: – Abaddon.

אבדּון
‘ăbaddôn
ab-ad-done’
Intensively from H6; abstractly a perishing; concretely Hades: – destruction.

Abaddon is the destroying angel that will perish. The only one in the Bible that led a rebellion that destroyed the goodness in heaven was Lucifer. He is the king of those in the bottomless pit and has been sentenced to perish.

Also here we see that Lucifer was brought down to the sides of the pit in hell just as we know satan was: (Isaiah 14:12) How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

(Isaiah 14:13) For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

(Isaiah 14:14) I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

(Isaiah 14:15) Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Here we see that Lucifer made the earth to tremble and shake kingdoms and we know satan does and will do that: (Isaiah 14:16) They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

We also know that this is Lucifer: (Ezekiel 28:14) Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

(Ezekiel 28:15) Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

(Ezekiel 28:16) By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

(Ezekiel 28:17) Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

(Ezekiel 28:18) Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

(Ezekiel 28:19) All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

We know that satan defiles sanctuaries. We know he was cast out of Heaven, etc…

And I know you have read this verse once or twice, but this one ties them together as the one who was cast out of Heaven after his rebellion: (Revelation 12:9) And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Jason Hacker: Then of course we know that satan is sentenced to perish and therefore is the son of perdition and we know that Lucifer exalted himself above God. He wants to be God and to be worshipped, so here you go: (2 Thessalonians 2:3) Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

(2 Thessalonians 2:4) Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Does the bible say we can see God?

A friend of mine brought me this question the other day and I promised him I would answer, but I wanted to write up this post in case anyone else has this question.

Here is the verses he brought forth

Gen 32:30  And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

1 John 4:12:  No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

Exodus 33:20:  And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.

His question is simple.  Does the bible say we can see God or not?

I love this question there is so much in it.  Let’s start with Exodus.

Exodus 33:18:  And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory.

This is Moses speaking.  Now note here what is he asking to see?  God in his full glory.  This is important to understand.

Exodus 33:19:  And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy.

This is God in all his goodness proclaiming YHVH you don’t get any more real that this.

Exodus 33:20:  And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.

Ok here is God himself saying that you cannot see his face and live so there can be no doubt.  Why?  Paul tells us in 1 Corinthians 15:50:  Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

The flesh and blood are not good enough.  This is also why we partake of Christ’s flesh and blood.

Exodus 33:21:  And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock:

Now shapen up.  God is teaching here.  Who is our rock?  It should be Jesus Christ.

Exodus 33:22:  And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:

God looks out for those he loves.  Many people cannot understand how when Christ returns the good can be here when his wrath is laid out.  With God there is not collateral damage.  He will keep you in the cleft of the Rock which is Jesus Christ.
Deuteronomy 32:9:  For the LORD’S portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.
Deuteronomy 32:10:  He found him in a desert land, and in the waste howling wilderness; he led him about, he instructed him, he kept him as the apple of his eye.

This is a portion of the Song of Moses which is the song the overcomers sing at Christ return.  God keeps us a the apple of his eye.  You see the name Jacob there and think this is just some old Jewish thing consider this: Psalms 105:15:  Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.

Christ is the anointed one and if you are in him them you are under that protection.

Exodus 33:23:  And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

So Moses only got to see the back of God and even that affected him tremendously .  Let’s skip ahead to see.

Exodus 34:33:  And till Moses had done speaking with them, he put a vail on his face.

This is just after Moses comes back down to see the people and he has to keep a vail on his face.

Exodus 34:34:  But when Moses went in before the LORD to speak with him, he took the vail off, until he came out. And he came out, and spake unto the children of Israel that which he was commanded.
Exodus 34:35:  And the children of Israel saw the face of Moses, that the skin of Moses’ face shone: and Moses put the vail upon his face again, until he went in to speak with him.

His skin glowed guys the word here in Hebrew is interesting:
H7160 קרן qâran kaw-ran’
A primitive root; to push or gore; used only as denominative from H7161, to shoot out horns; figuratively rays: – have horns, shine.

So we are not just talking about the head of Mr. Clean we are talking rays.

Ok I think by now we can all understand 1 John 4:12:  No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

So that leaves us with Jacob back in Genesis doesn’t it.

Genesis 32:24:  And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day.

The word for man here is:  H376  אישׁ  ‘ı̂ysh  eesh.  Meaning man.  Not God and certainly not the full glory of God.

Genesis 32:25:  And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob’s thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him.

This here describes Israel’s relationship with God since day one.

Genesis 32:26:  And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me.

Now we know from the upcoming verse that he is wrestling with God and what are they fighting about?  A blessing.  Think on that.  That tells you a lot about how Israel works.  Everything has to be the hard way.  Would God have just given him a blessing?  Well I think so that is what Christ taught, but Jacob needs to go about it the hard way is it no wonder that God calls Israel a stiffnecked people.

Genesis 32:27:  And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob.
Genesis 32:28:  And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.

When God changes names pay attention.  What does Israel mean?

H3478  ישׂראל  yiśrâ’êl  yis-raw-ale’
From H8280 and H410; he will rule as God; Jisrael, a symbolical name of Jacob; also (typically) of his posterity: – Israel.

Now did that say maybe?  No and God doesn’t like it says that Israel WILL rule as God.  Why because that is the line in which Christ comes through and it is that vine (Christ) which you must be attached to in order to have a living soul.  Do not forget that Gentiles who attach themselves to the root of Jesse are quickened and they become part of Israel.  If you don’t understand that just put it aside for now.
Do you understand better now when Paul says:
1 Corinthians 15:24:  Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
1 Corinthians 15:25:  For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
1 Corinthians 15:26:  The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Genesis 32:29:  And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there.

What is your name? Jacob asks.  Does God answer him? It isn’t written and when God called upon Moses to speak to the children of Israel he asked, “Who should I say sent me?”  So it wasn’t known.

Genesis 32:30:  And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

Who said he saw God face to face here?  Jacob did not God.  We saw that Jacob wrestled with a man.  Was if God?  Yes Jacob was very clear on that point, but did God show himself in his full glory?  No.  We can even tell this from the word used for God here.  H430  אלהים  ‘ĕlôhı̂ym  el-o-heem’
Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: – angels, X exceeding, God (gods) (-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.

You can see it wasn’t the sacred name that is used here.  Does that mean it wasn’t God?  No it just shows us that he was presenting himself to Jacob in a form he could understand.  God and sin cannot co-exist.  When God and sin come in contact guess who wins.

Maybe now you can understand how Christ can be God and he was able to be seen.

John 14:6  Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 14:7  If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
John 14:8  Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
John 14:9  Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
John 14:10  Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
John 14:11  Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

I will close with a line from Isaiah.

Isaiah 52:8  Thy watchmen shall lift up the voice; with the voice together shall they sing: for they shall see eye to eye, when the LORD shall bring again Zion.

This is the end friends.  This is when we shall truly see the glory of our Father.  I hope this helped if it did don’t just “like” it “share” it.

6 reasons why Muhammad was not sent from God

1. Muslim believe that God sent Moses, David, Jesus and Muhammad.  Since both Christian and Muslim believe God sent sent Moses and it was. Moses who taught us how to know if a prophet was sent from God let’s begin there.
Deuteronomy 18:21:  And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
Deuteronomy 18:22:  When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

Moses is pretty clear on what we are to look for.  So has Muhammad given us a prophecy that we can see if it has come true or not? No. Muslims believe that the only sign we are given was the Koran itself.  Let’s put that thought on hold for a moment and let’s look at the other thing Moses told us to look for.  Did he tell us to do something contrary to what was given in by God?  Certainly.  God gave us the torah.  God never changes therefore God would not have changed or tossed out his own words.  Christ said: Mat 5:17  Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18  For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

2. Muslims will argue that God only preserved his word for a time that when Muhammad came he didn’t need to do it anymore.  Again God never changes.  He woudn’t have spent 40 years giving Moses the law (the way he wants things done) if he was going to toss it aside in a few years and to God a few days. (2 Peter 3:8:  But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day).

Why is it that archaeologist have to dig up the words of ancient Egypt, Babylon and Assyria, when a text just as old has been with us the entire time?  Why is it when they discovered the dead sea scroll and a copy of Isaiah was found (one much older than we had before) and it was the same as the copy we have today (there is less than 1% difference in all the scripts of the bible).  Let’s take a script that God didn’t preserve namely the Gospel of Judas.  Back in the early 1900′ a complete copy of the Gospel of Judas was found by a grave robber.  It was sold and the next buyer tried to sell it for a lot of money and he couldn’t get it.  It eventually made it’s way to the US (selling artifacts like that in Egypt is against the law) where the owner tried to sell it for 2 million dollars.  The buyers didn’t have anything near that much so the tossed it into a bank safety deposit box for over a decade.  When it was finally rediscoverered it had crumbled to pieces.

3.  Muslims believe that muhammad was born in the wilderness or in an out of the way place away from the influences of other religions yet at the same time admit that he was born and lived in Mecca where at the time there were 390 other gods being worshiped at the time.  Not sure about you, but that sounds like a lot of influence to me.  He was also a trader, which at the time was how news traveled from city to city, thus Muhammad would have been subject to many ideas that roamed free.
4.  Muslims believe that Muhammad’s miracle was the Koran itself that he was illiterate and thus the words given to him were the unmediated words of God.  This is an interesting thought and honestly sounds kinda cool that God would do this right? Let’s not get itchy ears just yet.  Again let’s look to Moses.  When God wanted to give us the ten commandment without the conduit of man he did it quite nicely.

Exodus 34:1:  And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest.

Remember Moses broke the ten commandments when he saw that the children of Israel had fashioned a golden calf.

5. Muhammad told his followers to turn their back on Jerusalem and look toward Kabah in Mecca. Jerusalem was founded by the jebusites and was renamed Jerusalem (the habitation of peace) when David (a symbol of christ) conquered the city.  Which is why it is said that it had an unclean birth.  It is God’s favorite place in the world and is symbolic of us.  Do we need to pray toward Jerusalem?  No, but the symbolic gesture should show you where they are looking.  So ponder in your hearts this verse given by the Savior.

Matthew 23:37:  O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
Matthew 23:38:  Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Matthew 23:39:  For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

6.  Muslims will not understand this, but I write this to you my sisters and brothers in hopes to help strengthen your faith.  Muslims are ordered not to drink wine.  Wine is symbolic of the Holy Spirit.  For you that should show what they are missing.  If you are unsure of the symbology of wine let us look upon it.  First we are to take the wine and the bread.  The body and the blood of Christ. Thus we are to take wine in remembrance of him.  Let us look deeper into this.
John chapter 2 gives us the wedding at Cana.  There Christ and the disciples find 6 empty pots.  6 a symbol of man.  Christ orders the disciples to fill those pots with water just as Christ told the disciples to and out the loaves and fishes.  Christ gives to the disciples and the disciples give to the people.  Christ then turns that water into wine.  Why?  First because no matter how much the disciples do they cannot change the heart of a man.  No matter how much seed they spread they cannot make a seed grow.  Second when Christ ascended into heaven what did he send on Pentecost day?  The Holy Spirit.  The blood washes us clean and the Holy Spirit fills us.

Why was Jesus born in the night?

Luke 2:7:  And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.
Luke 2:8:  And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.
Luke 2:9:  And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.

We have all heard these verses before. Linus quoted them in the Charlie Brown Christmas special many years ago.  They are so familiar to us that they are easily over looked.  First we see that it is night.  Why was it night?  The answer is simple, before Christ came the world was in darkness.

John 8:12:  Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

Second let’s examine the shepherds.  Symbolically what are shepherds? Let’s find out.

Jeremiah 23:1:  Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.

Here we see pastors over the sheep.
Jeremiah 23:2:  Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.

Now I want you to note the stark difference between these pastors and the shepherds in the fields when Christ was born.  Those shepherds were tending to the sheep.
Jeremiah 23:3:  And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.
Jeremiah 23:4:  And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith the LORD.

What will the shepherds do that God will be happy with?  They shall feed them.
Jeremiah 23:5:  Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.

Hmm sounds about like Christ doesn’t it? Let’s go back to those shepherds in the dark.

Luke 2:10  And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.
Luke 2:11  For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

There is the righteous branch.
Luke 2:12  And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.
Luke 2:13  And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
Luke 2:14  Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.
Luk3 2:15  And it came to pass, as the angels were gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds said one to another, Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to pass, which the Lord hath made known unto us.

These shepherds care.

Luke 2:16  And they came with haste, and found Mary, and Joseph, and the babe lying in a manger.
Luke 2:17  And when they had seen it, they made known abroad the saying which was told them concerning this child.

What did they do?  They made it known.  They feed the people.

Luke 2:18  And all they that heard it wondered at those things which were told them by the shepherds.

Again told by who?  The shepherds.

Luke 2:19  But Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.
Luke 2:20  And the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things that they had heard and seen, as it was told unto them.

These shepherds tended their flocks even in the night.  Before Christ the world was in darkness and with his birth the shepherds no longer had to tend their flocks by night.

Test your Teachers

Test your teachers. We have all heard about how we know a tree by it’s fruit. Let’s pause for a moment and look at teachers. We know that one of the functions of the body of Christ is to be a teacher. What is the function of a teacher? Is it to show how much you know so you can stand tall among your students? What good would it do a first grader if the teacher simply told their students how much they knew? The function of a teacher is to pass on information. Christ showed us how to perform this role. When the disciples (disciplined students) asked him a question he answered. Does your teacher answer your questions or simply tell you that questions mean you don’t have faith?

Why was Christ Mad at the Moneychangers?

God gave me a truth today. Often when I receive a truth it seems so simple that I feel that everyone knows this. Father’s word is not complex and when He gives you truth you know it is from Him when it really falls into place.

Matthew 21:12-15 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, (13) And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves. (14) And the blind and the lame came to him in the temple; and he healed them. (15) And when the chief priests and scribes saw the wonderful things that he did, and the children crying in the temple, and saying, Hosanna to the Son of David; they were sore displeased,

Till now I was stuck in the first level of this teaching. I see Christ kicking butt and get excited. Yes the first level is that they were selling unfit sacrifices in the temple for profit. This is the physical level of this teaching. But Christ was not just talking about money. The dove a symbol of the Holy Spirit and these jokers were selling mite infested dove that were unfit, but lets take it further. You can only have one spirit. Is that spirit of God or not? They were selling the instead of spirit. That “den of thieves” is them stealing souls. Stealing God’s children. We are told to turn the other cheek when teaching and when Christ was teaching he didn’t let their mocking stop Him.

But when it came to the house of God he drove them out like a good Shepherd should. We are the temple, beloved. The spirit of God is within us. Heaven is wherever God is. Think on that if you haven’t. Spiritually these men are standing in God’s temple taking souls.

That truly cannot be anything else other than the Rapture. For it is the teaching of the pre-tribulation rapture that leads people to sell their souls to satan.

Look, the only thing you need to be “saved” is to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness. If you die before the tribulation and believe on the Lord you will be fine. You may be naked, but you will be fine. When Anti-Christ comes here everything changes. Because if you go to serve him then your spirit dies. No if’s, no ands, no maybe’s. It’s dead. And it will stay that way until after the millennium and Satan is released again. Not because someone took it from you but because you “bought” the wrong dove.

Mark 10:13-16 And they brought young children to him, that he should touch them: and his disciples rebuked those that brought them. (14) But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God. (15) Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein. (16) And he took them up in his arms, put his hands upon them, and blessed them.

Christ wasn’t a little upset. He was much displeased the Greek is even stronger G23
ἀγανακτέω
aganakteō
ag-an-ak-teh’-o
From ἄγαν agan (much) and ἄχθος achhos̄ (grief; akin to the base of G43); to be greatly afflicted, that is, (figuratively) indignant: – be much (sore) displeased, have (be moved with, with) indignation.

He was moved with indignation and this was toward his chosen 12. This is not small matter. I’m not sure how best to end this, never intended it to be this long, so I will just end by saying I hope this helps and pray on it.

Christ our Passover

1Corinthians 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
1Corinthians 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Did that Say Easter????? Why is Christ our Passover? Let’s look at the first Passover to find out.

Exodus 12:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt, saying,
Exodus 12:2 This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you.
Exodus 12:3 Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house:
Exodus 12:4 And if the household be too little for the lamb, let him and his neighbour next unto his house take it according to the number of the souls; every man according to his eating shall make your count for the lamb.
Exodus 12:5 Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ye shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats:

Christ was our Lamb!.

Exodus 12:6 And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.

Christ crucified.

Exodus 12:7 And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it.

We are covered by the Blood of Christ. That is how we over come. Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

Exodus 12:8 And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it.

Let us back up to 1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Understand what that leaven symbolized?

Exodus 12:9 Eat not of it raw, nor sodden at all with water, but roast with fire; his head with his legs, and with the purtenance thereof.

Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

Exodus 12:10 And ye shall let nothing of it remain until the morning; and that which remaineth of it until the morning ye shall burn with fire.
Exodus 12:11 And thus shall ye eat it; with your loins girded, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and ye shall eat it in haste: it is the LORD’S passover.

Israel was preparing to leave Egypt and then they were preparing to exit Egypt and so they needed to be ready. It is no different today. Ephesians 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
Ephesians 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

Exodus 12:12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD.

God is coming again and if you are not under the covering of the Christ’s blood then you are in a world of hurt. If you think that the church is going to disappear think again. Israel was IN Egypt when the Angel of death came.

Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.
Exodus 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.

Throughout your generations. This does not stop and it certainly was not changed into Easter!

Exodus 12:15 Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day ye shall put away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel.

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Throw out that old leaven. Renew yourselfs with the Blood of our Savior.

Exodus 12:16 And in the first day there shall be an holy convocation, and in the seventh day there shall be an holy convocation to you; no manner of work shall be done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done of you.

Christ is our sabbath. Rest in him.

Exodus 12:17 And ye shall observe the feast of unleavened bread; for in this selfsame day have I brought your armies out of the land of Egypt: therefore shall ye observe this day in your generations by an ordinance for ever.
Exodus 12:18 In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at even, ye shall eat unleavened bread, until the one and twentieth day of the month at even.
Exodus 12:19 Seven days shall there be no leaven found in your houses: for whosoever eateth that which is leavened, even that soul shall be cut off from the congregation of Israel, whether he be a stranger, or born in the land.
Exodus 12:20 Ye shall eat nothing leavened; in all your habitations shall ye eat unleavened bread.
Exodus 12:21 Then Moses called for all the elders of Israel, and said unto them, Draw out and take you a lamb according to your families, and kill the passover.
Exodus 12:22 And ye shall take a bunch of hyssop, and dip it in the blood that is in the bason, and strike the lintel and the two side posts with the blood that is in the bason; and none of you shall go out at the door of his house until the morning.

John 19:28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.
John 19:29 Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth.

Exodus 12:23 For the LORD will pass through to smite the Egyptians; and when he seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts, the LORD will pass over the door, and will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you.

Satan is the destroyer my friends. But we do not need to worry. He is nothing more than a 2nd rate street performer with a larger stage. Luke 21:16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
Luke 21:17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake.
Luke 21:18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish.

Exodus 12:24 And ye shall observe this thing for an ordinance to thee and to thy sons for ever.

How long do we observe this??? Read think and repeat.